Chuck Fadley is a staff photographer and multimedia producer at the Miami Herald and has started and great yahoo group for photojournalists doing video for newspapers. I was in there for two days and learned tons. Worth the time, for sure. Just remember you must be a photojournalist producing video for newspapers to get in. [...]
Chuck Fadley is a staff photographer and multimedia producer at the Miami Herald and has started and great yahoo group for photojournalists doing video for newspapers. I was in there for two days and learned tons. Worth the time, for sure. Just remember you must be a photojournalist producing video for newspapers to get in. enjoy NewspaperVideo : Newspaper Video
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can’t wait to join.
Thanks for the plug!
The email list covers newspaper video from many perspectives:
First, we talk about content — the reason we exist. The be-all and end-all for newspaper video.
Second, we talk about staffing, workflow, and other newspaper in-house stuff. Membership is limited to newspaper employees.
And third, we talk about technical stuff like compression, codecs, and bitrates.
If you work for a newspaper, come join the game — we’re a mix of still photographers, video shooters, web types, and anxious management sorts. We’re trying to pick our way through the thickets of the video world.
With all do respect,
you may want to consider opening your group up to all kinds of journalists instead of just newspaper journalists.
I wanted to join to share my technical expertise with the group seeing as how I’ve worked professionally in video production since I was 16. But I was denied. I find that somewhat insulting.
Just because somebody doesn’t currently work for a newspaper doesn’t mean their perspective isn’t valid or significant.
The fact of the matter is that much, if not most, of the innovative approaches towards the narrative structure and journalism has come from student and amateur citizen journalists financed and produced on a fraction of the time and budget of many professional journalistic endeavors.
The young students and amateur citizen journalists have just as much to contribute to the educational process as the professionals.
You’re just hurting yourselves if you’re going to arrogantly deny diverse perspectives or people who offer their help and advice to you for free.
Internet based journalists should consider working together to pioneer a better internet model instead of arrogantly sectioning and clicking off into these segmented hyphenated definitions of the medium.
Convergent and multimedia journalism is by definition the convergence of different mediums of journalism.
Please remember that there are reasons why newspapers have been slow to harness the internet.
Please consider that there might be reasons why much of the professionally produced videos on newspapers out there are subpar and overdue.
Please consider that there are students out there that have passionately fought for progress to be made in journalism who haven’t received any money, awards, or appreciation for their efforts.
Thank you for your time.
Well put!
“The fact of the matter is that much, if not most, of the innovative approaches towards the narrative structure and journalism has come from student and amateur citizen journalists financed and produced on a fraction of the time and budget of many professional journalistic endeavors.”
WOW! I am in awe!
“I wanted to join to share my technical expertise with the group seeing as how I’ve worked professionally in video production since I was 16. But I was denied. I find that somewhat insulting.”
If you are going to contribute something and not just fire off insulting posts as on Lightstalkers I am sure that you will be treated with respect.
As for students fighitng passionately for progress to be made in journalism, do not mistake enthusiasm and learning to use technology as being visionary or a substitution for experience in producing compelling visual stories. Only when you are in the trenches fighting day after day, after paying some dues, should you consider yourself able to carry the bag of most of the people in this profession. Youthful enthusiasm will be understood but the only arrogance I see here is what you have just posted.
Thank you for expressing your opinion Roger.
You’re right,
I do lack experience compared to many.
I am only 22, afterall.
But does that mean that I’ve never contributed anything?
I’m sorry if you find some of my posts insulting,
but does that mean that all of my posts are insulting?
If I’m not mistaken,
I have spent a considerable amount of time
posting a great deal of tips, tricks, and advice
to many for absolutely free on Lightstalkers and elsewhere.
Not to mention,
I spend a great deal of time almost everyday
responding to questions via email,
for free.
Apparently,
I’ve never paid any dues by your estimates.
I wasn’t paying any dues when I was ridiculed and called crazy for trying to give old-school journalists the heads up on the wiretapping issue right before the story finally broke national news.
I didn’t pay any dues when I took all the shit for making this story before the Gaza pullout.
I didn’t pay any dues by dreaming up any of these models for visual storytelling:
tdfc
poetry
fake mustaches final
brown school
Or for writing these:
global journalism manifesto (beta)
can you argue with a question?
Or for trying to demonstrate with my experiments the democratization of media distribution or the newfound viability for more independent and less structured-bureaucratic perspectives in news online.
I don’t pay any dues by personally showing my professors and co-students how to encode video (among other things) on the web for free.
Nor did I pay any dues when I offered free bi-weekly software workshops to pj students for free at my school.
Apparently,
trying to give an entire industry the heads up on various issues long in advance or trying to motivate peers into learning more skills, experiment with the narrative structure, and break away from just still photojournalism for their own personal and financial benefit is something to be ashamed of.
You may not like my approach,
but please don’t mistake or dismiss my intentions.
I think my track record demonstrates that
I’m not in it for the money,
I’m not in it for the glory.
My goals have been clear-cut, unrelenting,
and unapologetic from the beginning,
to revolutionize the medium and to rescue the medium from its failings.
You may not agree with the decisions I’ve made
(and I will be the first to admit that I have made some mistakes along the way) but you can rest assured that I am honest, straight-forward, and direct in my various stances.
I am not a two-faced politician like many journalists,
what you see is what you get with me.
I’m not going to BS with you or patronize you to gain your approval.
I wonder what good ole’ Henri would’ve thought about Margaret Thatcher’s quote,
“If you just set out to be liked,
you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time,
and you would achieve nothing.”
The only money I have ever made in freelance production is by whoring myself out to ad and marketing firms (which I loath) because nobody in journalism seems to value different, original, or creative perspectives.
That would probably mean losing newspaper subscriptions, right?
I mean,
how courageous or willing to take risks is the average newspaper?
Taking risks, making mistakes,
isn’t that synonymous with loss of employment?
Of course,
there’s less of that threat online,
as I have tried to demonstrate.
If I come off as arrogant,
odds are it’s a direct reaction to the unrelenting and massive arrogance I have had to deal with (long before my Lightstalker posts) in the past in this profession.
You might be surprised to discover that I’m usually quite polite, friendly, and cordial in public. I just don’t believe in putting up with excessive amounts of BS from others, unless of course I’m on assignment or in an anthropological frame of mind.
Conclusively, maybe I’m just tooting my own horn, but I’d like to think that I’ve managed to contribute a fair amount of diverse and original perspective to this industry in the face of all odds for no pay on a virtual budget of zero.
Sorry for my ramblings Roger.
I wish you only the best in your endeavors.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.
And please,
Let’s try and work together from now on
instead of belittling each other.
Enough is enough.
First of all, I have no beef with you personally. I am really not sure why I am spending time replying, but perhaps it is because I believe that all this is because you are young, and I remember what it was like to be full of passion but not really sure of how to express it.
Remember this: it is not what one says, but how you say it.
“You might be surprised to discover that I’m usually quite polite, friendly, and cordial in public.”
Patrick, you will make a lot more people listen to you if perhaps you acted like you describe yourself to be in person.
At this stage of your career it is advisable to listen carefully and offer your ideas and suggestions with a degree of humility.
For example, if you had written to Chuck Fadely and asked if it would be OK to join his list, as you think that you might be able to contribute to others, I know that Chuck would not say no. He is a guy who has been around, and although relatively new to this whole multimedia thing, incredibly smart and well informed about his new professional direction.
I also wish you nothing but the best in your endeavors. You will be well-served if you just moderate your tone. There are a few people out there who have been working in this multimedia thing for a while, and you will not gain any respect or even be heard unless you dial down the volume a wee bit.